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Post by lbwood on Feb 21, 2024 19:23:05 GMT -5
I know who this ref is and he is a good ref. BUT, he should disqualify himself from ref'n, not only JR matches, but the entire class that JR wrestled in the state tourney. This guy does a good job and I really don't think he would be partial towards JR in any manner. However, as a former NCAA basketball official for 25 years and an observer for the ACC I must say that any appearance of impropriety, whether justified or not, should be avoided. The job is thankless enough without putting yourself in that type of situation.
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Post by lbwood on Feb 21, 2024 20:05:59 GMT -5
I have been involved in the sport of wrestling for only the past four years watching my grandson(s) participate. From what I see, wrestling is a very demanding and emotional sport. Over the past few years Ive seen unsportsmanlike conduct go ignored or with minimal penalties. I dont know if the officials are wary of calling flagrant misconduct because of the severe penalty that goes with the call ("Disqualify on first offense, deduct 3 team points and remove from premises immediately for the duration of the event. Contestant is eliminated from further competition for the remainder of a dual meet, multiple school event or tournament and any team points earned shall be negated." NFHS rule book quote. Mr. Harrell, you're correct. Many times it's only the retaliation that's seen, however, with your son pushing the Wynn kid like he did it could have easily been considered flagrant misconduct and his 2nd place finish would have been negated. In my younger grandson's match (I luckily had two grandsons competing at the class 2 state tournament) his opponent constantly was saying "You f...ing suck" certainly loud enough for the official to hear it with no repercussion. In an in-season tournament, between periods, a kid told a ref to his face to open his f...ing eyes. He was charged with unsportsmanlike conduct with a penalty of only the loss of 1 team point. I ref'd NCAA basketball for over 20 years and was then hired by the ACC as an observer. There is no way a kid would use the "F" word to me and remain in the contest. This type of behavior needs to be addressed beginning at the local level with maximum penalty and followed through in district, regional and state tournaments or it will continue and eventually escalate beyond name calling and pushing.
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Post by matman on Feb 21, 2024 23:03:25 GMT -5
Was Wynn the kid who caused a scene last yr with his dad? Also where is the video that has been mentioned?
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Post by hippopanonymous on Feb 22, 2024 14:12:31 GMT -5
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Post by warriorswrestling on Feb 22, 2024 21:35:43 GMT -5
Yes Was Wynn the kid who caused a scene last yr with his dad? Also where is the video that has been mentuioned?
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Post by matman on Feb 22, 2024 22:21:56 GMT -5
Oh that explains a lot, sounds a lot like the aj ferrari parents, parenting style
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 23, 2024 12:41:38 GMT -5
As I said before. NOT PINNED. Shoulders are clearly on Wynn's chest.
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Post by April wynn on Feb 24, 2024 9:32:24 GMT -5
I have been asked by my son not to get on here and engage the internet trolls, but here is what I have to say. Once my parenting starts getting questioned, I’m going to stoop to the low levels of the men that hide behind screen names. Xaiden has a 4.0 GPA and has his entire school career. Xaiden is playing 3 sports. Lacrosse, Golf, and wrestling (which he puts the most time towards) He is involved in Young Life is a Christ-centered ministry that helps kids know Jesus, grow in their faith, and serve Him. So, for all of you GROWN MEN that hide behind a keyboard and tarnish his reputation or any reputation of an athlete. I would like to say LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!!! He is not perfect, but what teenager is?!? I think that sometimes you all forget that these athletes are CHILDREN. Now I kindly ask that you move on to the rest of the state of Virginia wrestlers and how you badly predict the outcomes of matches. Oh, and for those that say it wasn’t a pin, he has 80 pins in his high school matches. So, I’m guessing by the amount of hate on here your kid was probably one of them 😊 GOD BLESS and our family will see you next season!
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 24, 2024 9:47:29 GMT -5
79 pins
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Post by luffy on Feb 24, 2024 13:42:24 GMT -5
Was Wynn the kid who caused a scene last yr with his dad? Also where is the video that has been mentioned? Let’s be honest the kid didn’t cause a scene the dad did. If any of us dads jumped the railing do you think our kids would ignore us. Secondly wasn’t a pin and was a horrible call. With that said Wynn looked in control of the match.
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Post by jr on Feb 24, 2024 15:13:18 GMT -5
Yes Was Wynn the kid who caused a scene last yr with his dad? Also where is the video that has been mentuioned? How did he cause the scene last year? Did he motion for his dad to run down from the stands. No. I'm not sure how you can blame the wrestler for getting a hug from his dad.
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Post by jr on Feb 24, 2024 15:34:19 GMT -5
I have been asked by my son not to get on here and engage the internet trolls, but here is what I have to say. Once my parenting starts getting questioned, I’m going to stoop to the low levels of the men that hide behind screen names. Xaiden has a 4.0 GPA and has his entire school career. Xaiden is playing 3 sports. Lacrosse, Golf, and wrestling (which he puts the most time towards) He is involved in Young Life is a Christ-centered ministry that helps kids know Jesus, grow in their faith, and serve Him. So, for all of you GROWN MEN that hide behind a keyboard and tarnish his reputation or any reputation of an athlete. I would like to say LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!!! He is not perfect, but what teenager is?!? I think that sometimes you all forget that these athletes are CHILDREN. Now I kindly ask that you move on to the rest of the state of Virginia wrestlers and how you badly predict the outcomes of matches. Oh, and for those that say it wasn’t a pin, he has 80 pins in his high school matches. So, I’m guessing by the amount of hate on here your kid was probably one of them 😊 GOD BLESS and our family will see you next season! I've watched all of those 80 pins and never seen Xaiden do anything to taunt an opponent nor say anything other than normal post match good match type of stuff. I did see Xaiden motion in the match video for the opponent to come at him during the match. That hardly seems like taunting. I see high school football and basketball videos all the time where they do way worse and there are no calls. I talked to Xaiden and his version of what happened is not has been stated here at all. I have no reason to not believe him and I do believe him because I've watched him for 3 years now and never seen any reason to think otherwise. So this appears to be a bunch of adults making more of something than needs to be when no one knows the exact real story except the 2 wrestlers and referee. Also, pin or no pin is not on either wrestler, its on the referee. He called the pin. Get over it. The facts are Xaiden is a good kid, good student, 2 time state champ and committed to college.
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Post by matman on Feb 24, 2024 19:17:57 GMT -5
How did he cause the scene last year? Did he motion for his dad to run down from the stands. No. I'm not sure how you can blame the wrestler for getting a hug from his dad. So it was the dad?
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Post by multistager on Feb 24, 2024 21:08:39 GMT -5
I have been asked by my son not to get on here and engage the internet trolls, but here is what I have to say. Once my parenting starts getting questioned, I’m going to stoop to the low levels of the men that hide behind screen names. Xaiden has a 4.0 GPA and has his entire school career. Xaiden is playing 3 sports. Lacrosse, Golf, and wrestling (which he puts the most time towards) He is involved in Young Life is a Christ-centered ministry that helps kids know Jesus, grow in their faith, and serve Him. So, for all of you GROWN MEN that hide behind a keyboard and tarnish his reputation or any reputation of an athlete. I would like to say LOOK IN THE MIRROR!!!! He is not perfect, but what teenager is?!? I think that sometimes you all forget that these athletes are CHILDREN. Now I kindly ask that you move on to the rest of the state of Virginia wrestlers and how you badly predict the outcomes of matches. Oh, and for those that say it wasn’t a pin, he has 80 pins in his high school matches. So, I’m guessing by the amount of hate on here your kid was probably one of them 😊 GOD BLESS and our family will see you next season! All of mom’s statements are irrelevant! Her sprinkling sugar doesn’t make his actions justified. Just saying! His actions were trash along with the Joe Biden style ref!
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Post by matman on Feb 24, 2024 21:51:26 GMT -5
So if adults call your kids behavior out they are trolls? Maybe blame the dad but not the folks that watched
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