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Post by trophies4all on Feb 4, 2024 11:41:01 GMT -5
Y'all sleeping on some Richland's kids. They did pretty good at the duals. Might wanna go check out some of those head to head matchups. Phillips is one kid to look out for. BTW, In response to the 4 kids from D in HWT when only 3 qualify just shows how deep D is in that weight class. Another reason we need to see 16 man brackets at state without byes. Doesn't make sense and never will to me. If the reasoning is not enough kids, they're wrong. If they think they are right, then cut State to 3 classes 1A-3A. Things were a little different today in the district tournament on a level playing field Richlands got EXPOSED! I guess I'll admit when I'm wrong. Overrated.
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 4, 2024 11:48:21 GMT -5
I believe region b is the toughest from head to toe just sad to see what has come about since the 6a system went into place. Districts and regionals used to be a giant deal back in the day because line ups were full and it was always fun as a fan to watch the finals match ups which have sadly turned into a dual meet between Strasburg and take your pick of regions b schools to oppose. I like to see what Strasburg is doing and applaud coach Reynolds’s and his staff and the young feeder program that produced the team today for most part. Simply saying I miss the days of the hard nose 16 man brackets from region b that instead of watching most teams not be able to fill a whole line up. Region B and Region D are very tough. A and C are almost laughable. Everyone looks at Poquoson as this great school. Hell, they send their entire team to state cause they have what, 4-5 teams in the region. That's crazy. If you have half a decent team like Poq and James River, you almost can all but bet 10+ kids at state each year, giving you the most team points. Then you look at regions like D and C where these kids are very evenly matched and can only get maybe 5-6 kids to state. It's even worse if you look at 1A. SW Va is overwhelmingly 1A strong. No wonder other regions don't want to combine with 1D. They wouldn't send near as many kids to the state tournament. Let's all agree we need to reclassify for 3 classes.
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Post by warriorswrestling on Feb 4, 2024 12:07:53 GMT -5
Just because you bring 10-14 kids to the state tournament dosnt guarantee success.
I remember a number of years ago, a team from D won their regional tournament, then came out and placed 28th at states. They brought 14 guys and placed 28th. My team brought 5 and we outplaced them after taking 4th in our region, we were 7th in state. Still gotta produce once you get there.
Poquoson will place every kid 106-150 at the state tournament. Good enough for 2nd.
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Post by warriorswrestling on Feb 4, 2024 12:08:18 GMT -5
But i do agree on 3 classification
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 4, 2024 12:18:53 GMT -5
Just because you bring 10-14 kids to the state tournament dosnt guarantee success. I remember a number of years ago, a team from D won their regional tournament, then came out and placed 28th at states. They brought 14 guys and placed 28th. My team brought 5 and we outplaced them after taking 4th in our region, we were 7th in state. Still gotta produce once you get there. Poquoson will place every kid 106-150 at the state tournament. Good enough for 2nd. Yes, you're right you still have to win. Nothing is guaranteed. Wrestling is a sport that's earned. Sure helps when you can bring the crowd thou. Kinda like the James River Seat Saver program...you think they sell tickets to get there early to reserve seats? I'm kidding.
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Post by wrestlinma on Feb 4, 2024 13:39:27 GMT -5
Just because you bring 10-14 kids to the state tournament dosnt guarantee success. I remember a number of years ago, a team from D won their regional tournament, then came out and placed 28th at states. They brought 14 guys and placed 28th. My team brought 5 and we outplaced them after taking 4th in our region, we were 7th in state. Still gotta produce once you get there. Poquoson will place every kid 106-150 at the state tournament. Good enough for 2nd. Yes, you're right you still have to win. Nothing is guaranteed. Wrestling is a sport that's earned. Sure helps when you can bring the crowd thou. Kinda like the James River Seat Saver program...you think they sell tickets to get there early to reserve seats? I'm kidding. Annoying but at least they do have a lot that show up to support a small group which is really lacking for a lot of schools for wrestling. Got to give them that.
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Post by jr on Feb 4, 2024 14:35:55 GMT -5
Just because you bring 10-14 kids to the state tournament dosnt guarantee success. I remember a number of years ago, a team from D won their regional tournament, then came out and placed 28th at states. They brought 14 guys and placed 28th. My team brought 5 and we outplaced them after taking 4th in our region, we were 7th in state. Still gotta produce once you get there. Poquoson will place every kid 106-150 at the state tournament. Good enough for 2nd. Yes, you're right you still have to win. Nothing is guaranteed. Wrestling is a sport that's earned. Sure helps when you can bring the crowd thou. Kinda like the James River Seat Saver program...you think they sell tickets to get there early to reserve seats? I'm kidding. The James River fans stand in line just like everyone else, but we get there earlier than most and once we get past the Yellow Jackets don't get in the way or you could get run over. Also, I would add that for the past few years we have received many compliments for how we support our kids at each event. The team mom has the best team table maybe in the state. I've seen quite a number of parents come take pictures of out setup. It's all about the kids!
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Post by vhslhelper on Feb 4, 2024 15:01:51 GMT -5
I remember a number of years ago, a team from D won their regional tournament, then came out and placed 28th at states. They brought 14 guys and placed 28th. My team brought 5 and we outplaced them after taking 4th in our region, we were 7th in state. I can't rem. D having that bad of a year anytime. About when was that? Back b4 the split?
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Post by warriorswrestling on Feb 4, 2024 15:15:06 GMT -5
I remember a number of years ago, a team from D won their regional tournament, then came out and placed 28th at states. They brought 14 guys and placed 28th. My team brought 5 and we outplaced them after taking 4th in our region, we were 7th in state. I can't rem. D having that bad of a year anytime. About when was that? Back b4 the split? Had to go back and look it up lol. 2019/2020, and I wasn't saying region D had a bad year. John Battle won region D by 13.5 points (173.5 points to Lebanon's 160) I was wrong, JSB placed 24th at States with 28 points that year. Lebanon that year placed 5th at states with 84 points. My point was simply, just because you bring a ton of kids to states doesn't mean you're going to score points at states. Regardless of how many kids you bring, they still need to perform.
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Post by jr on Feb 4, 2024 16:15:49 GMT -5
I'd rather take 5 hammers to state than 10 medium wrestlers any year.
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Post by pk on Feb 4, 2024 19:23:32 GMT -5
I'd rather take 5 hammers to state than 10 medium wrestlers any year. I know a school that has 5 hammers. Radford!
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 5, 2024 9:25:59 GMT -5
I'd rather take 5 hammers to state than 10 medium wrestlers any year. I agree 100%. Too many medium kids getting that SQ beside their name who was 50/50 at best. I think we all agree on here that 3 Classifications would be best overall for the state, it would get rid of the 12 man bracket with byes BS for 1A/2A and make for more competition across the board.
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Post by pk on Feb 5, 2024 9:58:48 GMT -5
I'd rather take 5 hammers to state than 10 medium wrestlers any year. I agree 100%. Too many medium kids getting that SQ beside their name who was 50/50 at best. I think we all agree on here that 3 Classifications would be best overall for the state, it would get rid of the 12 man bracket with byes BS for 1A/2A and make for more competition across the board. As it should be. A bye for the 1 st seed at states is ridiculous. Bring back the glory days of high school wrestling or atleast combine 1/2 A together. Seeing teams bring 10 plus kids and getting half knocked out the first day should tell you something. Combine C D together take top 8 for regions and A/B together make it a super region.
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Post by pk on Feb 5, 2024 10:02:17 GMT -5
Grundy vs Strasburg at States would be interesting
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Post by matburn on Feb 7, 2024 9:12:02 GMT -5
The half state tournament was great for a couple of years. It made a better state tournament. The issue was weak teams in weak regions before accustomed to taking 10+kids to a state tourney. Every region deserves to send their best, but the current system isn't best for everyone. Regions that are traditionally deep are killing each other while other regions get the benefit of lesser competition/numbers and on paper appear stronger by bringing more kids. It comes out in the wash, but still an issue when kids are left at home due to the top 3 crap. Fill the bracket!
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