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Post by rollin on Feb 2, 2024 21:42:53 GMT -5
Class 1 Region breakdown
Region A-Chinoteague, Essex, King and Queen, Lancaster, Matthews, Middlesex, Northampton, Northumberland, Westmoreland-9
Region B- Buffalo Gap, Cumberland, Franklin, Rappahannock Co -4
Region C- Auburn, Bath Co, East Montgomery, Fort Chiswell, Galax, George Wythe, Grayson Co, Giles, Parry McCleur-9
Region D-Castlewood, Chilhowie, Eastside, Grundy, Holston, Honaker, JI Burton, Northwood, Patrick Henry (GS), Rural Retreat, Thomas Walker -11
Class 1 33/54 61% of Schools have wrestling. However,the disparity in Region B this year is going to send 8 forfeits to the State tournament. If the regions were balanced this wouldn't happen and if we had half states it wouldn't happen. I hope when people see the brackets at state, they understand, there's lots of kids in the other 3 regions, who will be left home, who would love to fill in one of the 8 forfeits coming from Region C, after Riverheads bumped up to Class 2. When looking at the brackets, don't think Class 1 kids aren't participating, the system just needs balanced.
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Post by stopstalling37 on Feb 2, 2024 21:50:03 GMT -5
This is why half state is important! Time for the other regions to get on board and if not then they need to have the decision made for them. At this point we are close to having 1a combined with 2a and honestly that may not be a bad idea
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Post by rollin on Feb 2, 2024 22:25:39 GMT -5
I like the idea of sending 3 region c teams to region B and have Half-State. Then it's 16/17. Balanced.
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Post by lowsingle on Feb 3, 2024 3:08:07 GMT -5
Region A does not want to do a Super Region anymore where Region B wanted it. Region B was taking the majority of the 6 kids to states when A was not. They want to send their kids instead of sending the right kids. 2 years ago was the last time they did it that way when Buffalo Gap dropped down.
Region B teams I’m sure do not like the fact they only have 4 teams. The drive for most of the schools is 3 hours to each other. The VHSL could put the schools together better than what they did. But it all comes down to the fact that Region A does not want to do it anymore.
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Post by penwright on Feb 3, 2024 16:10:02 GMT -5
Class 1 Region breakdown Region A-Chinoteague, Essex, King and Queen, Lancaster, Matthews, Middlesex, Northampton, Northumberland, Westmoreland-9 Region B- Buffalo Gap, Cumberland, Franklin, Rappahannock Co -4 Region C- Auburn, Bath Co, East Montgomery, Fort Chiswell, Galax, George Wythe, Grayson Co, Giles, Parry McCleur-9 Region D-Castlewood, Chilhowie, Eastside, Grundy, Holston, Honaker, JI Burton, Northwood, Patrick Henry (GS), Rural Retreat, Thomas Walker -11 Class 1 33/54 61% of Schools have wrestling. However,the disparity in Region B this year is going to send 8 forfeits to the State tournament. If the regions were balanced this wouldn't happen and if we had half states it wouldn't happen. I hope when people see the brackets at state, they understand, there's lots of kids in the other 3 regions, who will be left home, who would love to fill in one of the 8 forfeits coming from Region C, after Riverheads bumped up to Class 2. When looking at the brackets, don't think Class 1 kids aren't participating, the system just needs balanced. It's pathetic. I No mean no disrespect but many of these kids dont belong in the state bracket. They show up to only go 2 and out because all they had to do is make weight. The current system is not structured to have the best in the bracket. Other than saying you are in the state tournament what does it prove when there is better competition sitting in the crowd.
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Post by halfnelson on Feb 3, 2024 21:51:06 GMT -5
1A definitely needs to be doing half state. Leaving good kids at home and having forfeits at State is not good representation of the sport in general. Basically all you have to do to make state tournament in region b is make weight. 4 kids is all that was eliminated from tournament and 8 forfeits advance to state! This should not be allowed. Basically if you receive a 1st round forfeit at those weights you place. Placing 1st and wrestling no one in region and getting a 1st round bye for Winning region you have essentially placed and not even wrestled.
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 4, 2024 11:55:38 GMT -5
1A definitely needs to be doing half state. Leaving good kids at home and having forfeits at State is not good representation of the sport in general. Basically all you have to do to make state tournament in region b is make weight. 4 kids is all that was eliminated from tournament and 8 forfeits advance to state! This should not be allowed. Basically if you receive a 1st round forfeit at those weights you place. Placing 1st and wrestling no one in region and getting a 1st round bye for Winning region you have essentially placed and not even wrestled. Half state would be an improvement. But imagine being in the other region going to combine with 1D. They'll never do if they're the one's voting. Too many self interests votes. 3 Classes, not 6!
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 4, 2024 11:58:05 GMT -5
Class 1 Region breakdown Region A-Chinoteague, Essex, King and Queen, Lancaster, Matthews, Middlesex, Northampton, Northumberland, Westmoreland-9 Region B- Buffalo Gap, Cumberland, Franklin, Rappahannock Co -4 Region C- Auburn, Bath Co, East Montgomery, Fort Chiswell, Galax, George Wythe, Grayson Co, Giles, Parry McCleur-9 Region D-Castlewood, Chilhowie, Eastside, Grundy, Holston, Honaker, JI Burton, Northwood, Patrick Henry (GS), Rural Retreat, Thomas Walker -11 Class 1 33/54 61% of Schools have wrestling. However,the disparity in Region B this year is going to send 8 forfeits to the State tournament. If the regions were balanced this wouldn't happen and if we had half states it wouldn't happen. I hope when people see the brackets at state, they understand, there's lots of kids in the other 3 regions, who will be left home, who would love to fill in one of the 8 forfeits coming from Region C, after Riverheads bumped up to Class 2. When looking at the brackets, don't think Class 1 kids aren't participating, the system just needs balanced. Region B has to be better that 1 kid to make it....that's IF they have a full weight class for a region tournament. Parents are probably like: "My baby is a state qualifier!" HA
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Post by penwright on Feb 4, 2024 16:36:21 GMT -5
1A definitely needs to be doing half state. Leaving good kids at home and having forfeits at State is not good representation of the sport in general. Basically all you have to do to make state tournament in region b is make weight. 4 kids is all that was eliminated from tournament and 8 forfeits advance to state! This should not be allowed. Basically if you receive a 1st round forfeit at those weights you place. Placing 1st and wrestling no one in region and getting a 1st round bye for Winning region you have essentially placed and not even wrestled. Half state would be an improvement. But imagine being in the other region going to combine with 1D. They'll never do if they're the one's voting. Too many self interests votes. 3 Classes, not 6! Imo Combining classes will bring the individual competition but what does that do for the team portion? Many of these 1A schools struggle to have a season let alone a full team.
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Post by vhslhelper on Feb 6, 2024 1:34:04 GMT -5
None. Why would it?
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Post by Keel on Feb 6, 2024 8:23:42 GMT -5
Back in my day... 2008-2010 Group AA Region 2 with 32 teams was murder. Region 4 with 14 teams including the Xteen-time state champs. Ahh memories.
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 8, 2024 19:12:12 GMT -5
Watching Region 1D right now. Been around 80 matches at this point and over 70 pins. The difference in skill level is absurd.
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Post by rollin on Feb 8, 2024 19:34:11 GMT -5
Back in my day... 2008-2010 Group AA Region 2 with 32 teams was murder. Region 4 with 14 teams including the Xteen-time state champs. Ahh memories. Region 2 should have awarded its own state title! 8 deep with state Placewinner level talent and only sending 4 to state was bad!
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 9, 2024 14:00:45 GMT -5
Class 1 Region breakdown Region A-Chinoteague, Essex, King and Queen, Lancaster, Matthews, Middlesex, Northampton, Northumberland, Westmoreland-9 Region B- Buffalo Gap, Cumberland, Franklin, Rappahannock Co -4 Region C- Auburn, Bath Co, East Montgomery, Fort Chiswell, Galax, George Wythe, Grayson Co, Giles, Parry McCleur-9 Region D-Castlewood, Chilhowie, Eastside, Grundy, Holston, Honaker, JI Burton, Northwood, Patrick Henry (GS), Rural Retreat, Thomas Walker -11 Class 1 33/54 61% of Schools have wrestling. However,the disparity in Region B this year is going to send 8 forfeits to the State tournament. If the regions were balanced this wouldn't happen and if we had half states it wouldn't happen. I hope when people see the brackets at state, they understand, there's lots of kids in the other 3 regions, who will be left home, who would love to fill in one of the 8 forfeits coming from Region C, after Riverheads bumped up to Class 2. When looking at the brackets, don't think Class 1 kids aren't participating, the system just needs balanced. It's pathetic. I No mean no disrespect but many of these kids dont belong in the state bracket. They show up to only go 2 and out because all they had to do is make weight. The current system is not structured to have the best in the bracket. Other than saying you are in the state tournament what does it prove when there is better competition sitting in the crowd. This quote hasn't been more true. Look at the other regions who couldn't fill a bracket. This is sick to look at. Now 1A has a ton of FF/Bye's in the state tournament. When is VHSL gonna wake up?! 3 classes for wrestling!
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Post by trophies4all on Feb 9, 2024 14:06:56 GMT -5
1A's motto for state is all you have to do is make weight to place.
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