2A Rankings #4

thewatcher2026
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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 16:22:36 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by thewatcher2026 on Jan 28, 2024 16:22:36 GMT -5

Jan 22, 2024 10:25:46 GMT -5 thebystander said:

Less than two weeks until postseason starts....

106
Xaiden Wynn - JR 106 Champ
Kam Harrel - Poquoson 106 3rd
Maddox Heck - King William 106 SQ
Mariah Roberts - Riverheads 113 SQ 1A

113
Bryson Cash - Riverheads
Alan Vu - Glenvar 106 4th
Brysyn Gardner - Liberty (Bedford)
Logan Keese - Poquoson
Kelan Ventro - Central (Wise) 113 5th
Dylan Padgett - Nandua 106 SQ

120
Peyton Dean - Strasburg 113 2nd
Brayden Forbes - JR 113 4th
James Withrow - Poquoson 120 6th
Brayden Owsley - Central (Wise)
Frank Kitzer - Fort Defiance
Winchino Verdieu - Arcadia

126
Jared Goodson - Poquoson 113 Champ
Canaan Spears - Union 120 Champ
Kolton Vincent - Clarke County
Braden Martinez - Strasburg

132
Jake Yowell - Riverheads 126 Champ 1A
Jadon Shanholtz - Strasburg 120 3rd
Davis Pittman - JSB
Ethan Cobbler - Patrick Co 120 4th
James Ruehl - Poquoson 138 5th

138
Heath Burks - Strasburg 126 Champ
Nate Stewart - JR 120 2nd
Bryan Latta - Poquoson 126 3rd
Landon Yoder - Fort Defiance 3A SQ
Wyatt Spencer - Richlands 132 5th
Tristan Fadley - JSB 138 6th

144
Lucas Martinez - Strasburg 132 2nd
Reed Booth - Poquoson 132 3rd
Christian Rector - JSB 132 4th
Joshua James Lamb - Madison Co.
Evan Annese - Riverheads

150
David Burks - Strasburg 150 Champ
Tristen Hass - Graham 150 2nd
Christian Leonard - Poquoson
Stevie Wood - Liberty (Bedford) 144 3A SQ

157
Blake Jacobson - Clarke Co 144 3rd
Matthew Marlowe - Chatham 165 2nd
Taven Williams - Radford 150 3rd
Kaden Dupree - Richlands 157 5th
Steven Spencer - Patrick Co 144 6th
Noah Ross - Riverheads 175 1A SQ
Ian Ray - Lebanon 144 1A SQ

165
Thomas Potter - Union 165 Champ
Donovan Burks - Strasburg 157 6th
Lance Duncan - Radford 175 3rd
Jude Davis - Central (Wise) 150 5th
Mat McNeil - Liberty (Bedford) 165 SQ 3A

175
Ethan Flowers - Glenvar 175 Champ
Aiden Goode - Lebanon 165 SQ 1A
Cole Martin - Radford 157 4th
Jayden Alston - James River

190
Chase Miller - Glenvar 190 Champ
Dawson Martin - Radford 190 2nd
Tyler Forbes - Central (Woodstock) 215 3rd
Colby Shaw - Strasburg
Noah Burnham - Central (Wise)
Izaak Keith - Union 190 5th
Kalib Simmons - Lebanon 157 5th 1A

215
Hutson Conrad - Strasburg 190 3rd
Charlie Davis - Radford 215 2nd
Luke Josey - Central (Wise) 215 4th
Noah Sills - JSB 190 6th
Matthew Sacra - Madison Co. 190 SQ
Trenton Stallings - King William
Paul Pascale - Patrick Co 215 SQ

285
Nathan Lopez - Central (Woodstock) 285 Champ
Brent Lovell - Union
Austin Coe - Marion
Orrin King - Virginia 285 3rd
Noah Hodges - Bruton 285 4th
Austin Clevinger - Central (Wise)

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 17:30:31 GMT -5 via mobile pk likes this

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Post by thewatcher2026 on Jan 28, 2024 17:30:31 GMT -5

To my knowledge of what I’ve been able to watch and discuss these are really good rankings. I’m not sure why you’ve only ranked 4 in certain weights but at the end of the day rankings are rankings and the proof is not in the pudding it’s on the mat. I was able to watch Strasburg compete at the Coach K Classic over the weekend against 4A, 5A and Benedictine. I thought several of the Rams looked outstanding. Conrad at #215 crushed everyone with ease, David Burks, #150, wrestled very well before running into Van Hoven in the finals who is a monster. Heath Burks, #138, needs more offense to compete at that level but that should not stop him from competing for his 4th 2A title. Bracken #157 and Sherman #175 were surprises and wrestled well. I would probably rank them both.

Dean #120, wrestled tough but looked overmatched in his two losses. I’ve been told he was out of injury time and had to default in the finals. Expect him to be there next week.

Miller #113, was back and seemed healthy. Their #106 is a bit undersized but could surprise at states.

Donovan Burks #165 did not wrestle. The question is will he be back this season?

Although the Rams finished 2nd in a stout field they are definitely beatable and need to find more offensive and perform in order to capture their 3rd straight team title.

Last Edit: Jan 28, 2024 17:37:01 GMT -5 by thewatcher2026

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 19:38:04 GMT -5 via mobile

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Post by Faninstands on Jan 28, 2024 19:38:04 GMT -5

So random thought but how can you say they need to find offensive if they wanna win 3rd straight they have went up and beaten 4a and up schools consistently this year not to mention going to Trojan wars in pa and holding there own there as well.

I’ve seen other 2a teams around the state and I think it’s safe to say that the rams should be clear favorites in Salem based on the outcomes they have had. When put up against 2a schools this year they havnt really be contested much and outside of region b all I’ve got to see is results online.

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 20:39:58 GMT -5

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Jan 28, 2024 15:26:30 GMT -5 Faninstands said:

Dean second loss was an injury all I know
He also only wrestled in two or three tournaments due to being sick earlier in the year and his loss although being a rough loss came to a kid from 4a or 5a not sure of the injury occurred during that match or if it happened in the consi finals

At the end of the day rankings are just a number by your name I’ve seen many kids not ranked top 6 when va had a,aa,aaa who worked there way to state finals

The #1 ranked kid at 120 has entered 2 tournaments and won 1 and placed 4th in the other. A Region D kid has only 2 losses and has won multiple tournaments. A Region A kid has some losses, but has wrestled multiple tough tournaments and won a big one. A region C kid is unbeaten with 5 tournament wins over multiple good kids. Why does the Region B kid deserve the #1 ranking over the others? What ranked kids has he beat? Your right that rankings are just a number, but Strasburg people get on here weekly touting their kids many that are deserving and some that are not based on results. They do have the best team overall in 2A that is not the question.

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 20:44:36 GMT -5 via mobile

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I don’t do the rankings just based off what I read and I guess he was given the top spot based off of last year end results. Me personally havnt watched enough outside of region b because I am one of the Strasburg faithful but I won’t say I believe all of the kids should be ranked because to me I’d rather be the hunter than the hunted as far as rankings go.

I have complained in the past about lack of coverage from all over the state of Virginia and thought maybe it would be better with invention of the NFHS app but they to seem to be stuck on basketball and forget wrestling exist

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 20:57:54 GMT -5 via mobile thewatcher2026 likes this

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Completely agree with you all. It’s really hard to rank if they haven’t wrestled head to head or beaten a wrestler that the other has loss to. At the end of the day Salem will determine everything. Dean, Forbes, Winthrow and Owens can all win, heck anyone could.

pk Junior Member Posts: 57	2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 21:25:51 GMT -5 via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by pk on Jan 28, 2024 21:25:51 GMT -5 Central Wise # 106 is someone to watch out for. Hall # 165 is another one to watch and Jude Davis has been wrestling 175.

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 21:51:18 GMT -5 thewatcher2026 and mrwrastlin#2 like this

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Jan 28, 2024 20:44:36 GMT -5 Faninstands said:

I don’t do the rankings just based off what I read and I guess he was given the top spot based off of last year end results. Me personally havnt watched enough outside of region b because I am one of the Strasburg faithful but I won’t say I believe all of the kids should be ranked because to me I’d rather be the hunter than the hunted as far as rankings go.

I have complained in the past about lack of coverage from all over the state of Virginia and thought maybe it would be better with invention of the NFHS app but they to seem to be stuck on basketball and forget wrestling exist

At this point no rankings should be based on last year. Who has had the best year THIS year and heads to head is what should count? I'd like to believe the ranker will do the right thing this week. Your bias towards Strasburg is shining bright.

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 22:41:52 GMT -5 via mobile warriorswrestling and cavfan like this

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Will have a postseason ranking this week and then a state prediction after regionals.

I only put four at some weights because in 2A, some of those weights are weak and it’s hard to find that fifth or sixth kid to be ranked as you could argue several kids, several that don’t have head to heads or common opponents

Not many 2A schools travel or seek each other out so sometimes it’s hard. My rankings on top kids are based off of film, trusted opinions and my gut.

And yeah….if you think Strasburg is going to struggle in Salem, you aren’t watching the right team compete then…

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 23:40:31 GMT -5 via mobile

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Jan 28, 2024 19:38:04 GMT -5 Faninstands said:

So random thought but how can you say they need to find offensive if they wanna win 3rd straight they have went up and beaten 4a and up schools consistently this year not to mention going to Trojan wars in pa and holding there own there as well.

I’ve seen other 2a teams around the state and I think it’s safe to say that the rams should be clear favorites in Salem based on the outcomes they have had. When put up against 2a schools this year they havnt really be contested much and outside of region b all I’ve got to see is results online.

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 28, 2024 23:46:40 GMT -5 via mobile

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Jan 28, 2024 23:40:31 GMT -5 thewatcher2026 said:

Jan 28, 2024 19:38:04 GMT -5 Faninstands said:

So random thought but how can you say they need to find offensive if they wanna win 3rd straight they have went up and beaten 4a and up schools consistently this year not to mention going to Trojan wars in pa and holding there own there as well.

I’ve seen other 2a teams around the state and I think it’s safe to say that the rams should be clear favorites in Salem based on the outcomes they have had. When put up against 2a schools this year they havnt really be contested much and outside of region b all I’ve got to see is results online.

I say that because I watched the entire team wrestle and I believe, although they have some studs, some of their kids need to score more points in order to win more matches at states to secure that title. That’s not a criticism of that team. It’s just my opinion. And the fact that they go out of their way to seek out Strong competition is only going to benefit them at the tournament. again just an opinion.

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2A Rankings #4 Jan 29, 2024 8:29:16 GMT -5 thewatcher2026 likes this

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Post by jr on Jan 29, 2024 8:29:16 GMT -5

Jan 28, 2024 22:41:52 GMT -5 thebystander said:

Will have a postseason ranking this week and then a state prediction after regionals.

I only put four at some weights because in 2A, some of those weights are weak and it’s hard to find that fifth or sixth kid to be ranked as you could argue several kids, several that don’t have head to heads or common opponents

Not many 2A schools travel or seek each other out so sometimes it’s hard. My rankings on top kids are based off of film, trusted opinions and my gut.

And yeah….if you think Strasburg is going to struggle in Salem, you aren’t watching the right team compete then…

I would add that rankings should also be based level of competition and any head to head. There is not that much film from this year for 2A. if some kids beat ranked kids that should be included. Beating the same 3 or 4 kids over and over is not that impressive unless they are ranked kids.

matman Full Member Posts: 197	2A Rankings #4 Jan 29, 2024 9:51:14 GMT -5 trophies4all likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by matman on Jan 29, 2024 9:51:14 GMT -5 If you go for a screen name and the first 3 are taken why would you settle for number 4?
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Post by thewatcher2026 on Jan 28, 2024 16:22:36 GMT -5

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Post by jr on Jan 28, 2024 20:39:58 GMT -5

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Post by pk on Jan 28, 2024 20:57:54 GMT -5

Post by pk on Jan 28, 2024 21:25:51 GMT -5

Post by jr on Jan 28, 2024 21:51:18 GMT -5

Post by thebystander on Jan 28, 2024 22:41:52 GMT -5

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Post by matman on Jan 29, 2024 9:51:14 GMT -5