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Post by jrwrestle on Jan 17, 2024 16:38:46 GMT -5
Afternoon. Great summary as always. Can we unpack the Woodgrove statement and how it relates to team rankings? Please don't get me wrong, I do believe that team has some talented kids. And I also believe that they will win 4a when you consider some injuries on on other 4a teams especially.
I guess my question is how good are they, are they fourth ranked in the state as the ranking show? I noticed on the individual rankings they factor in strength of schedule but that doesn't seem to be the case with team rankings. What strikes me as different about Woodgrove when compared to the other top 10 teams is that the other top 10 teams are battling with each other and other out of state highly competitive events.
It seems Woodgrove is stacking bodies against average to below average competition. It's not their fault that they're not in a super competitive district or region, but there's opportunities to test a team to prove how good they are that don't seem to be taken. Does batting a thousand against bad teams make you better than batting 500 against good teams? There are a few competitive wins sprinkled in, yes. But that's not the body of work.
I suppose my question is what merits a team ranking that high? If by all accounts it appears there's in aversion to competition where loss is possible?
Is anyone else wondering this?
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Post by 2fat4hwt on Jan 18, 2024 12:41:02 GMT -5
It is crazy how people get all upset about other kids or other situations and scream, "It's not fair!" Clearly, it IS fair. Wrestlers that reclass follow the same age requirements as all athletes in Virginia. The parents of the the kids that reclass (whether in High School or Middle School) are just doing what they feel is best for their own child. What's wrong with that? NOTHING...is the answer to that rhetorical question. A book by Malcolm Gladwell called Outliers talks a great deal about how the kids that are the oldest in their grade are more likely to be more successful later on in life. Whether that success is on the mat, on the ballfield, in the boardroom or wherever is irrelevant. The point is that parents are trying to do right by their kid. I understand that not every family may have to opportunity to hold their kid back in MS or reclass in HS...but again, that doesn't make it unfair that other families do. Anyway, life isn't always 'fair.' I believe that the parents have the right to make their own decision about this matter, and as long as they aren't breaking any rules...then great. The stud wrestler that was held back in MS or reclassed at a VISAA school and ended up repeating 9th grade, is also the kid that is going off to wrestle D1 at Rutgers or West Virginia. That's exciting for Virginia wrestling. And btw, the Benedictine kid that wrestled in 2A for a year before transferring to private school will only be 18 years old when he graduates this May.
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Post by foehammer on Jan 18, 2024 13:24:42 GMT -5
Honestly, we need to go back to three classes
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Post by jr on Jan 18, 2024 15:26:37 GMT -5
It is crazy how people get all upset about other kids or other situations and scream, "It's not fair!" Clearly, it IS fair. Wrestlers that reclass follow the same age requirements as all athletes in Virginia. The parents of the the kids that reclass (whether in High School or Middle School) are just doing what they feel is best for their own child. What's wrong with that? NOTHING...is the answer to that rhetorical question. A book by Malcolm Gladwell called Outliers talks a great deal about how the kids that are the oldest in their grade are more likely to be more successful later on in life. Whether that success is on the mat, on the ballfield, in the boardroom or wherever is irrelevant. The point is that parents are trying to do right by their kid. I understand that not every family may have to opportunity to hold their kid back in MS or reclass in HS...but again, that doesn't make it unfair that other families do. Anyway, life isn't always 'fair.' I believe that the parents have the right to make their own decision about this matter, and as long as they aren't breaking any rules...then great. The stud wrestler that was held back in MS or reclassed at a VISAA school and ended up repeating 9th grade, is also the kid that is going off to wrestle D1 at Rutgers or West Virginia. That's exciting for Virginia wrestling. And btw, the Benedictine kid that wrestled in 2A for a year before transferring to private school will only be 18 years old when he graduates this May. Your post proves my point exactly. You admit there are certain advantages for private schools over public schools with things such as reclassing, 8th graders wrestling varsity and weight management. It's the parents job to do what they can for their kids I agree 100%, but is it a level playing field for everyone? Probably not. It really does not matter how old the kid is when he graduates, what does matter is the kid wrestled in 9th grade in the state tournament, but then wrestled again the next year as a freshman again. That is a big advantage over public school kids. Thanks.
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