jr
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Post by jr on Feb 1, 2024 8:10:32 GMT -5
Not sure how you justify putting Angel and Gray above Hatcher and Tyler? I honestly don’t think those matches would be close. Heavyhands did you read my previous posts? I wasn't trying to justify any ranking. I was trying to get the rankings back to a more current status. These were done pretty quickly to get them updated before post season. I've tweaked the 150 pound rankings based on feedback from posters, more research in Track and also last night Arnold beat Rigney at the Blue Ridge district tournament.
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Post by wrestleva on Feb 1, 2024 8:59:22 GMT -5
State finals predictions 3a 106-Buffum over Witcher by MD 113-Carter over brandt by Dec 120-Gibson over townsend by MD 126-Sananti over Porter by Fall 132-Martin over Sykes by Fall 138- Hand over Hatcher by Fall 144- Saavedra over Bentley by Dec (could go either way) 150- Nininger over Tyler by fall 157-Barnes over Hartman By fall 165- Ayers over Divello By fall 175- Kelly over Armbrust By Dec (could go either way) 190-Jobber Spence over Morgan by Fall 215- Harlow over Metz by Dec 285- Lonker over Garrison by Fall
If regions don’t mess up the seeding and the finals don’t happen in the semis again this year I think it could be some great finals matches. Just wanted to hear what everyone has to say and how they view the field going into the state tournament as this season has almost come to an end. 106 113 144 and 175 should be close and very fun to watch.
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Post by 3arankings on Feb 1, 2024 9:10:52 GMT -5
State finals predictions 3a 106-Buffum over Witcher by MD 113-Carter over brandt by Dec 120-Gibson over townsend by MD 126-Sananti over Porter by Fall 132-Martin over Sykes by Fall 138- Hand over Hatcher by Fall 144- Saavedra over Bentley by Dec (could go either way) 150- Nininger over Tyler by fall 157-Barnes over Hartman By fall 165- Ayers over Divello By fall 175- Kelly over Armbrust By Dec (could go either way) 190-Jobber Spence over Morgan by Fall 215- Harlow over Metz by Dec 285- Lonker over Garrison by Fall If regions don’t mess up the seeding and the finals don’t happen in the semis again this year I think it could be some great finals matches. Just wanted to hear what everyone has to say and how they view the field going into the state tournament as this season has almost come to an end. 106 113 144 and 175 should be close and very fun to watch. 106- agree 113- I know the result from last year, but give me Brandt this time. 120- Gibson and Withers was a close match at Trojan Wars so I'll lean towards that. Townsend has lost a few matches regionally so state finals is a stretch. 126- agree 132- If Martin pins Sykes I would be impressed. 138- I don't think Hatcher gets stuck but maybe. 144- Bentley is the favorite. 150- Again, as good as he is, I would be impressed if Nininger won by fall. 157- Frame and Ramey have given Barns 6 minute matches.. Hartman is on their level. Barns favorited yes but he'll be working. 165- Ayers favorite but Robie and Divello didn't get stuck last week so I'm not sure why that would change. 175- I would say Kelly. 190- Spence obviously. I'll go the Lake Taylor kid but Morgan is solid. 215- Harlow 285- I'll go same two kids but I'm not sure if they've wrestled yet. So I'm not gonna guess and be contradicted lol. Should be fun!
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Post by wrestleva on Feb 1, 2024 9:20:23 GMT -5
I like Hatcher but I’ve noticed if he doesn’t pin fast he will get pinned, I think Barnes and Ayers win by 8 or more if they don’t get a fall. I think the carter brandt will be fun to watch carter won pretty convincingly last year but brandt looks pretty good and Carter is coming up a weight. I agree it should be fun
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Post by 3arankings on Feb 1, 2024 9:25:30 GMT -5
I like Hatcher but I’ve noticed if he doesn’t pin fast he will get pinned, I think Barnes and Ayers win by 8 or more if they don’t get a fall. I think the carter brandt will be fun to watch carter won pretty convincingly last year but brandt looks pretty good and Carter is coming up a weight. I agree it should be fun Yeah, we agree mostly on champions and those SR kids are obviously all really good my disagreement comes as more of a testament to some of the other kids rather than a knock on them, I just have faith some of the 3a boys will make it a little more competitive than a bunch of pins in the finals.
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Post by wrestleva on Feb 1, 2024 9:32:28 GMT -5
I get that, I’d like to see that as well, I do think it’s possible. 3a has some studs and I’d love to see the 6 divisions have a dual tournament with the state champs. Or some kind of format to prove the true champs I think 3a would do extremely well.
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Post by 3arankings on Feb 1, 2024 9:42:29 GMT -5
I get that, I’d like to see that as well, I do think it’s possible. 3a has some studs and I’d love to see the 6 divisions have a dual tournament with the state champs. Or some kind of format to prove the true champs I think 3a would do extremely well. Top 3 kids/teams from 3-6a and top two from 1 and 2a to create a 16 team/kid bracket would be a lot of fun. I'm in my 30s now though and these ideas always get smashed since I was a kid. When I was in high school they did the Virginia Challenge Dual and once upon a time a lot of the champs did show up. There's a lot bigger access to high level tournaments in the offseason now though so once classified states is over everyone bails. It would have to be mandated.. which again will never happen sadly.
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Post by wrestlingjunk on Feb 1, 2024 10:18:44 GMT -5
I like Hatcher but I’ve noticed if he doesn’t pin fast he will get pinned, I think Barnes and Ayers win by 8 or more if they don’t get a fall. I think the carter brandt will be fun to watch carter won pretty convincingly last year but brandt looks pretty good and Carter is coming up a weight. I agree it should be fun State Semis im expecting peyton hatcher vs gage cockran. I watched them wrestle yesterday and cockran got pinned fast, But... i feel as if gage makes it out of the first period gage takes that match. After seeing how well he is conditioned and Preforms well under pressure for the most part. Ive seen cockran come back from 5 point defecates late in the last period. should be a good matchup.
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Post by swvawatcher on Feb 1, 2024 11:36:57 GMT -5
I like Hatcher but I’ve noticed if he doesn’t pin fast he will get pinned, I think Barnes and Ayers win by 8 or more if they don’t get a fall. I think the carter brandt will be fun to watch carter won pretty convincingly last year but brandt looks pretty good and Carter is coming up a weight. I agree it should be fun State Semis im expecting peyton hatcher vs gage cockran. I watched them wrestle yesterday and cockran got pinned fast, But... i feel as if gage makes it out of the first period gage takes that match. After seeing how well he is conditioned and Preforms well under pressure for the most part. Ive seen cockran come back from 5 point defecates late in the last period. should be a good matchup. the 113 from Flemming shows 18-0, is this someone to keep an eye on outside of 3A?
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Post by wrestlingfan2244 on Feb 1, 2024 20:39:49 GMT -5
State finals predictions 3a 106-Buffum over Witcher by MD 113-Carter over brandt by Dec 120-Gibson over townsend by MD 126-Sananti over Porter by Fall 132-Martin over Sykes by Fall 138- Hand over Hatcher by Fall 144- Saavedra over Bentley by Dec (could go either way) 150- Nininger over Tyler by fall 157-Barnes over Hartman By fall 165- Ayers over Divello By fall 175- Kelly over Armbrust By Dec (could go either way) 190-Jobber Spence over Morgan by Fall 215- Harlow over Metz by Dec 285- Lonker over Garrison by Fall If regions don’t mess up the seeding and the finals don’t happen in the semis again this year I think it could be some great finals matches. Just wanted to hear what everyone has to say and how they view the field going into the state tournament as this season has almost come to an end. 106 113 144 and 175 should be close and very fun to watch. 106- agree 113- I know the result from last year, but give me Brandt this time. 120- Gibson and Withers was a close match at Trojan Wars so I'll lean towards that. Townsend has lost a few matches regionally so state finals is a stretch. 126- agree 132- If Martin pins Sykes I would be impressed. 138- I don't think Hatcher gets stuck but maybe. 144- Bentley is the favorite. 150- Again, as good as he is, I would be impressed if Nininger won by fall. 157- Frame and Ramey have given Barns 6 minute matches.. Hartman is on their level. Barns favorited yes but he'll be working. 165- Ayers favorite but Robie and Divello didn't get stuck last week so I'm not sure why that would change. 175- I would say Kelly. 190- Spence obviously. I'll go the Lake Taylor kid but Morgan is solid. 215- Harlow 285- I'll go same two kids but I'm not sure if they've wrestled yet. So I'm not gonna guess and be contradicted lol. Should be fun!
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Post by wrestlingfan2244 on Feb 1, 2024 20:44:10 GMT -5
I agreed with you guys. If the state and region get it right for once we will have some great final matches. Every year we have a side of a bracket where to two best kids are placed. One moves on and the other gets 3rd . Usually the guy that gets second or in the finals in not even in the same league or got pinned or teched at regionals and makes the finals. We want the best kids in the finals. We want true seeded done not some draw of pot luck. This will make va wrestling better.
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Post by wrestlingfan2244 on Feb 1, 2024 20:47:18 GMT -5
Seed them. Example. 165. Put Macon on one side and Robie and Divello on the other to battle for the finals. 175 Kelly and Armbrust are 1/2 in all divisions. Put them in opposite brackets so we can have a true finals.
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Post by 3arankings on Feb 1, 2024 21:49:06 GMT -5
Seed them. Example. 165. Put Macon on one side and Robie and Divello on the other to battle for the finals. 175 Kelly and Armbrust are 1/2 in all divisions. Put them in opposite brackets so we can have a true finals. [br Yeah I agree with you but instead it's going to wind up being either DiVello on the same side with both Piluso and Robie to make the finals, or DiVello and Ayers same side. Extremely flawed when it should be 2 a side.
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Post by wrestlinghokiefan on Feb 1, 2024 22:33:32 GMT -5
State finals predictions 3a 106-Buffum over Witcher by MD 113-Carter over brandt by Dec 120-Gibson over townsend by MD 126-Sananti over Porter by Fall 132-Martin over Sykes by Fall 138- Hand over Hatcher by Fall 144- Saavedra over Bentley by Dec (could go either way) 150- Nininger over Tyler by fall 157-Barnes over Hartman By fall 165- Ayers over Divello By fall 175- Kelly over Armbrust By Dec (could go either way) 190-Jobber Spence over Morgan by Fall 215- Harlow over Metz by Dec 285- Lonker over Garrison by Fall If regions don’t mess up the seeding and the finals don’t happen in the semis again this year I think it could be some great finals matches. Just wanted to hear what everyone has to say and how they view the field going into the state tournament as this season has almost come to an end. 106 113 144 and 175 should be close and very fun to watch. 106- agree 113- I know the result from last year, but give me Brandt this time. 120- Gibson and Withers was a close match at Trojan Wars so I'll lean towards that. Townsend has lost a few matches regionally so state finals is a stretch. 126- agree 132- If Martin pins Sykes I would be impressed. 138- I don't think Hatcher gets stuck but maybe. 144- Bentley is the favorite. 150- Again, as good as he is, I would be impressed if Nininger won by fall. 157- Frame and Ramey have given Barns 6 minute matches.. Hartman is on their level. Barns favorited yes but he'll be working. 165- Ayers favorite but Robie and Divello didn't get stuck last week so I'm not sure why that would change. 175- I would say Kelly. 190- Spence obviously. I'll go the Lake Taylor kid but Morgan is solid. 215- Harlow 285- I'll go same two kids but I'm not sure if they've wrestled yet. So I'm not gonna guess and be contradicted lol. Should be fun! I’m not sure if Bently is the favorite here Saavedra is a returning state finalist and looks amazing at 144 he looks like a completely different wrestler moving a lot more keeping a high pace looked a lot stronger while watching him at WSAZ it could go either way but Bentley definitely isn’t a favorite here
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Post by new2this on Feb 6, 2024 8:20:35 GMT -5
Is Josh Kelly out? Didn't compete in the Blue Ridge District, nothing in Track since December.
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